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Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:55 pm
by Abernathy
AHEM.
Abernathy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:54 pm
For what it’s worth, here is my prediction : At 2pm on Monday, it will be announced that only Rishi Sunak has verifiably met the 100 nominations threshold, and he will therefore be declared the new leader of the Conservative Party, and our new PM. The Tories will have dodged the massive bullet of allowing the swivel-eyed nutjobs that gave us Truss to vote for a Boris Johnson comeback. Which is, from a Labour point of view, slightly disappointing, but hey-ho. I think we are past the “tipping point” now, whereby the majority of the electorate has already firmly resolved to get shot of this lousy government- whenever the elecion comes.
So, watch out for PM Sunak on Monday.
Lottery numbers, anyone ?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:22 pm
by Arrowhead
Abernathy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:55 pm
Lottery numbers, anyone ?
In that case, let's hear your prediction for what happens over the next few months.....

Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:48 pm
by Bones McCoy
Positive start:
Mogg displays more self-awareness than Truss by resigning his cabinet post.
At least he realises the gig's up.
Sunak would do well to relegate the rest of the "characters" who make much noise, but deliver nothing.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:50 pm
by Abernathy
Watching the news coverage of all these cabinet appointment shenanigans is kind of bizarre. From Beth Rigby pointlessly shouting inane questions at various Tories on their way into/out of number 10, to some Tory grandee twat being interviewed and talking about the “huge amount of talent” there is to choose from in the Conservative parliamentary party. I mean, WHAT. THE. FUCK.????
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:40 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Dunning Kruger.
Armsteen's corollary.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:56 pm
by Abernathy
I’m thinking the next batch of opinion polls will be rather interesting. I expect a slight improvement in the Tories’ fortunes.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:18 pm
by Arrowhead
Abernathy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:56 pm
I’m thinking the next batch of opinion polls will be rather interesting. I expect a slight improvement in the Tories’ fortunes.
Probably quite a big rebound initially, as a nation collectively breathes a sigh of relief that Truss is gone. Cue lots of tedious "Labour are quaking in their boots" pieces over the next few weeks.
Where the Tories are polling six months from now will be far more revealing......
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:27 am
by Crabcakes
Will be interesting to see how Sunak holds up at PMQs today. Truss suffered for her solid teak delivery and dead on arrival performances. And while some have been saying Sunak and Starmer are similar in many ways in personality terms, I think when head to head it’s going to probably highlight Starmer has a lot more personality than he’s often given credit for.
Will also be telling how quickly Sunak’s demeanour changes. He’s been quick to anger before when questioned, so I suspect he’s not going to like weekly scrutiny.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:28 am
by Andy McDandy
Apparently he's got Gove prepping him, so expect lots of low blows and snide digs.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:19 am
by Bones McCoy
It'll be interesting to see Sunak's delivery.
When he's prepared and on-script he's quite Blair like.
When reduced to improv' he's more Will from the Inbetweeners.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:13 pm
by Crabcakes
Well he’s walked into 2 traps so far. Maybe Gove had had one of his pick-me-ups and wasn’t quite thinking straight when prepping him?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:29 pm
by Watchman
James Duddridge has now tweeted to confirm that he was asked to leave his role as minister for international trade.
He said he was “disappointed” but that he would be giving Rishi Sunak his “full support” from the back benches.
Maybe that lower house fag sucking up to a prefect wasn’t such a good look
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:48 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
First time I saw James Duddridge was the night before Bozo's resignation. I think he'd just sacked Michael Gove, so things were already pretty farcical. Then Duddridge came out on Bozo's behalf, full of beans, looking like Timothy Claypole out of Rentaghost. Bozo was going nowhere and was about to announce tax cuts.
I see Duddridge didn't learn very much from the experience.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:49 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
They say being Chief Whip is more about charm than brute force. Wendy Morton shows why she died on her arse as Chief Whip.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:22 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Apparently the unspeakable Jonathan Gullis has been quietly fired as an education minister. Doesn't seem to be part of the reshuffle, no reasons given...
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:53 am
by Yug
I'll just leave this here in case anyone thinks the Tories might be worth a punt at the next GE.
Hospitals and care homes have not received a single penny of a £500m emergency fund promised by the government to prevent the NHS becoming overwhelmed this winter, the Guardian has learned.
Ministers announced they were injecting the cash into the health and social care system last month, to help get thousands of medically fit patients out of hospital into either their own home or a care home as soon as possible in an effort to better prepare the NHS for the coming months...
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/202 ... gency-fund
The Tories under anyone else is the same Party of empty promises that it was under Johnson.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:59 pm
by Arrowhead
Another very tepid poll from the Tory perspective. Remember, this is supposed to be during the "honeymoon" period for new PM Rishi.
Question: has there actually been a single poll showing the Tories even edging into the low 30s percentage-wise, since Sunak took over? I'm pretty sure the previous Opinium one was the best for the Tories so far, and that was still a whopping 16% difference?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:39 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
They just got 30% with Redfield and Wilton, but it's the only one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_p ... ction#2022
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:03 pm
by Arrowhead
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:39 pm
They just got 30% with Redfield and Wilton, but it's the only one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_p ... ction#2022
In that case, I suspect Labour will privately be very encouraged.
I don't want to tempt fate, but it's getting difficult to see a route back for Tories from here on in. It was never likely to happen, but their best chance may have been to anoint Sunak as PM, held a snap GE and gone in studs-up on Labour.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:34 pm
by davidjay
Has any polling been done since Braverman declared war on Johnny Foreigner?