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Re: Over in America...
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:57 pm
by Watchman
And they’ll blame Disney for going “woke”
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:13 pm
by Yug
While Disney, far from going broke, appear to be profiting greatly from their wokeness.
There's a lesson there which the Right are just too dumb to see. Most people like being treated decently, and don't go out of their way to be total arseholes to others. It shows how small the anti-woke crowd is, and how much of a minority the "silent majority" really are.
The fash started the culture war. The fash are prosecuting the culture war with all of their might. The fash are losing the culture war.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:49 am
by Bones McCoy
Sound to me as though the senator's greenlighting violence by the "You ain't frum roun' here bah" brigade.
Transparent as a jellyfish, and half the brain.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:40 pm
by Philip Marlow
A nice, calming profile of the delightful individual who may yet be the Republican party's next nominee for President of the United States.
Ron DeSantis, American Psycho
Normally, anyone running for public office would not want voters to think of them as having anything in common with a necrophilic cannibal serial killer. But Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, in his increasingly desperate and flailing bid to gain traction in the Republican presidential primary, has made the strange decision to embrace, elevate, and defend an ad where he is likened to Bateman
https://www.thenation.com/article/polit ... an-psycho/
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:57 pm
by MisterMuncher
There's another reading of American Psycho where Bateman is just a bone-idle nepotism hire who does no actual work and spends his days fantasising power via rape and murder because he's essentially a pointless waste of space.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:18 pm
by Philip Marlow
As noted in the article. Still, actual murderer or loony fantasist, it's a downright weird comparison to endorse.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:50 pm
by Youngian
Reading Tweets from Italian-Americans most were cringing at the prospect of De Santis becoming the first Italian POTUS. British Asians feel their pain.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:20 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
De Santis has 40 years less experience of limelight than Trump. I think it shows.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:47 pm
by Andy McDandy
For a bunch of hetero-normative crusaders, they sure do love their homoerotic imagery.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:47 pm
by Crabcakes
It’s staggering that the Christian, conservative GOP’s second strongest challenger can’t seem to put a dent in the lead of the openly corrupt sex pest who might be in jail shortly.
They’ve not so much fallen as a party as plummeted, hit the ground, and smashed straight through the Earth’s crust without so much as slowing down
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:33 pm
by Youngian
It’s staggering that the Christian, conservative GOP’s second strongest challenger can’t seem to put a dent in the lead of the openly corrupt sex pest who might be in jail shortly.
If anyone other than an 80 year old gaffe prone amnesiac stood against Trump, he’d still be in the Whitehouse.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:28 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
De Santis will be left in the clear lead if Trump gets banged up. But he might blow that lead.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:34 pm
by The Weeping Angel
DeSantis reminds me a lot of another Florida Republican Marco Rubio, after 2012 he was cited as the Republican Obama, a young senator from a minority background who could appeal to swing voters. In 2016 he ran for the Republican nomination and failed miserably.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:06 pm
by Crabcakes
Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:33 pm
It’s staggering that the Christian, conservative GOP’s second strongest challenger can’t seem to put a dent in the lead of the openly corrupt sex pest who might be in jail shortly.
If anyone other than an 80 year old gaffe prone amnesiac stood against Trump, he’d still be in the Whitehouse.
Apparently Fox News are seething that Biden has got inflation down and under control, and have even had to admit his successes.
It’s bizarre how US elections can have the most terrifyingly corrupt people involved whose desire to show off could go as far as wanting to fire a nuke, but the sole deciding factor for many is ‘can they save me a couple of bucks?’
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:40 pm
by MisterMuncher
That's been a feature for a while:
Jimmy Carter was probably the most sincerely Christian US president in recent history, a man who actually *did shit for poor people* and continued to do so for the rest of his life. When it came down to it in 1980, though, the nascent religious right through the Moral Majority went directly for the libertine former movie star (and gun control advocate*) Ronald Reagan because he would preserve tax exemptions for churches and their affiliated institutions regardless of their politicking.
*Yeah, California doesn't have some of America's most restrictive gun laws because it's heavily liberal, but because back in Ronnie's governor days those uppity black folks got the crazy idea that all that freedom and open carrying stuff could apply to them as well.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:47 pm
by Andy McDandy
Carter's other problem was that he (shades of flag-shagging today) "talked America down", i.e. was reasonably honest about the challenges the country faced.
Come 1980, many Americans had had enough of introspection following Vietnam and Watergate, and wanted to feel good about themselves. Reagan basically said that the country was so over that shit, so what if some laws got broke or some Cambodians got bombed, start feeling good about yourselves.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:54 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
And Reagan chucked money about which Carter wasn't allowed to do, and the more general boom after the early 80s recession made it fairly easy to win elections in you were in government.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:00 pm
by MisterMuncher
And that description glosses over a lot of Christian tax exempt charities were private schools opened as an end run around desegregation. I suppose "can save me a couple of bucks" has a cousin in "will make the lives of not-me measurably shittier"
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:01 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Crabcakes wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:06 pm
Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:33 pm
It’s staggering that the Christian, conservative GOP’s second strongest challenger can’t seem to put a dent in the lead of the openly corrupt sex pest who might be in jail shortly.
If anyone other than an 80 year old gaffe prone amnesiac stood against Trump, he’d still be in the Whitehouse.
Apparently Fox News are seething that Biden has got inflation down and under control, and have even had to admit his successes.
That won't be a problem to them. They'll just quote headline wage rises, which will have fallen with the inflation. Their audience won't be trusted with such niceties as real terms wages.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:02 pm
by Andy McDandy
He was a very lucky president. Not even the Iran-Contra scandal really hurt him. Mainly because quite a few Americans couldn't .care less if the Iranians and Nicaraguans wanted to kill each other, and fair play to the government for making some cash out of it.