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This all sounds like panic.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ions-polls

They don't say as much, but sounds like they sort of think Johnson's spaffing is going to be successful. Much wiser heads than Johnson are pretty sceptical than it will. Don't fret yet. You can't spaff everywhere.

Oblomov wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 11:28 pm

Is she not getting a brief?

Steve Reed seems to get mentioned as Chairman. If that's happening is Rayner swaps with Reed, this would be incredibly inept.

How so? I wish you'd show your working in these gnomic statements.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 11:34 pm

That would be very sensible.

She wasn't being put forward much to the public as Chair. It's a fairly inward looking role, but I thought we could have seen more of her.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 11:36 pm How so? I wish you'd show your working in these gnomic statements.

There wasn't a better way to swap two shadow cabinet members over? Why insist on her moving now anyway? You can't fuck with her, she's the Deputy Leader with a massive direct mandate.

We know that somebody leaked something to make her look bad (first class rail tickets, ffs). That's massively out of order. Starmer ought to be able to stop that happening.

McDonnell can fuck off, mind. Moving somebody to a new job is perfectly consistent with taking responsibility. What does he want, Starmer to stand there apologizing?

The same applies to Burnham (he's just Tweeted his disapproval of the Rayner shuffle without, I suspect, any clear idea of what is actually going on).

There's a good reason he was never leader...

He's also not really understanding that his job is easier than Starmer's,

"Give us more money, Tories!" is fine for him. In Starmer's position, people say "Where you getting it from then?"

Wouldn’t surprise me if RLB is the leak or friends of hers, also the Nandy stuff has been put out their to rile the feathers of the right of the party, heard it one or two times and then it went.

Let’s face it, something has to change, and party chairman is a pretty rubbish role, isn’t it the kind you give to make someone pleased, shouldn’t even need to be an MP.

As for Burnham that statement today wasn’t the best political policy in the world, supposed to be a party.

As always with this I feel for those who feel they have to do everything for the party for months, they won’t say no to anything (those days are gone for me, though I did leaflet drop one afternoon) and then see this shit the day after the election.

Personally I’m no longer sure if Starmer is the right person, but it’s not any of the awkward posse on the far left,they haven’t taken any responsibility for the previous 5 years so a period of silence from them would be appreciated.

I'd suggest Burgon, but I don't think he's bright enough.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 11:53 pm The same applies to Burnham (he's just Tweeted his disapproval of the Rayner shuffle without, I suspect, any clear idea of what is actually going on).

There's a good reason he was never leader...

His spat with Dan Hodges has shown that.

I think you'll enjoy this, for the sheer brass neck of the Tory writing it:

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 5:26 pm Admittedly, this bloke is a Lib Dem, but he's a councillor (in Stockport). So I'll give him more credence than people saying he didn't mention it because it would give credence to Corbyn.

This is true but also a good example of how what I like to all Twlldun's law.

This made me laugh. An extraordinary result in the context of everything that has happened these past few days

That has brought a smile to my face.

Don't mention this. Only votes in Durham count.

Well, this was entirely predictable... as is the inevitable BTL comment.

https://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2021/0 ... lling.html

A pause for reflection, but a Tory elsewhere joyfully quipped "Wasn’t it MacMillan of whom it was said 'greater love hath no man than to sack others for the sake of his career'?"

Too bad Tim, with his amazing political nous and insight, never thought of going into politics himself.