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Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:59 am
by davidjay
I do wonder what would happen if London Bridge did fall down.

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:06 pm
by Rosvanian
The state that Charles was in this morning suggests that things are a lot more serious than we're being told.

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:07 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Rosvanian wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:06 pm The state that Charles was in this morning suggests that things are a lot more serious than we're being told.
Please explain, I didn't see it.

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:12 pm
by The All New KevS
BBN wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:51 pm In terms of the practicalities of what happens when she passes, this article from a few years ago covers it pretty robustly

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... don-bridge

As for what will happen as a society, it'll be Poppy Day on steroids.
Yep, you thought we lost our heads in Diana week, you ain't see nothing yet.

On one side you'll have those demanding we wear sackcloth and ashes for the next six months, and that anyone not in full lamentation mode should be shot, and then deported.

On the other you'll get those whinging about Bargain Hunt being cancelled for coverage of possibly the biggest domestic story that the BBC et al have covered for 70 years.

Can't wait. :roll:

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:24 pm
by The All New KevS
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:07 pm
Rosvanian wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:06 pm The state that Charles was in this morning suggests that things are a lot more serious than we're being told.
Please explain, I didn't see it.
Neither did I, but from what I see, the story is he looked quite distressed, but there's no mention about how Edward, Anne, William or any of the others looked, so who knows? I mean it's possible that the enormity of the prospect of his destiny drawing ever nearer suddenly overwhelmed him.

It might also be the case that he was thinking of his father not being around, who was of course, a veteran himself. As he turns 73 himself today, he might not have got the presents he wanted?

At the end of the day, we don't know. The only thing to do is wait and see.

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:27 pm
by Watchman
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:07 pm
Rosvanian wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:06 pm The state that Charles was in this morning suggests that things are a lot more serious than we're being told.
Please explain, I didn't see it.
I thought the same; okay I’m not an expert, but even given the solemnity of the occasion, he looked very human and close to really expressing his emotions

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:41 pm
by Rosvanian
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:07 pm
Rosvanian wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:06 pm The state that Charles was in this morning suggests that things are a lot more serious than we're being told.
Please explain, I didn't see it.
He looked like he was really struggling and for a moment his lip was quivered and the tears looked they were about to come. It was actually incredibly moving to see. This was before the two minutes silence. As they all trouped back in afterwards and the camera panned across the balcony of the Foreign Office, Camilla also looked distraught. Now obviously we're putting two and two together here, and I'm usually pretty immune to this royal watching stuff, but this morning felt different.

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:47 pm
by Boiler
Yes, I noticed it too - I was watching it.

He really did look like he was about to crack, poor bugger.

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:50 pm
by The All New KevS
Hmmm. I see what you mean.


Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:31 pm
by The Weeping Angel
The All New KevS wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:12 pm
BBN wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:51 pm In terms of the practicalities of what happens when she passes, this article from a few years ago covers it pretty robustly

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... don-bridge

As for what will happen as a society, it'll be Poppy Day on steroids.
Yep, you thought we lost our heads in Diana week, you ain't see nothing yet.

On one side you'll have those demanding we wear sackcloth and ashes for the next six months, and that anyone not in full lamentation mode should be shot, and then deported.

On the other you'll get those whinging about Bargain Hunt being cancelled for coverage of possibly the biggest domestic story that the BBC et al have covered for 70 years.

Can't wait. :roll:
Not to mention people comparing us to North Korea.

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:58 pm
by The All New KevS
Think I might go to a crowded place wearing a black suit and sunglasses and say "Confirmed. London Bridge is down, I repeat, London Bridge is down. Initiate Witchell protocols immediately" into my cuffs.

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:12 pm
by Bones McCoy
Rosvanian wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:06 pm The state that Charles was in this morning suggests that things are a lot more serious than we're being told.
Maybe he'd been told to spend more time with the Prime Minister.

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:18 pm
by Bones McCoy
Rosvanian wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:06 pm The state that Charles was in this morning suggests that things are a lot more serious than we're being told.
When there's speculation, I try to see whether there are other simple explanations.

Here's a bit of a punt:
Charles was very close to a couple of military figures.
Mountbatten, and his dad Philip - both of whom served in the last World War.

Maybe (just maybe) they loomed large in his contemplations of the day.

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:29 pm
by The All New KevS
That's my thinking as well to be honest. Having seen the footage now, there's no doubt Charles was emotional, blinking back the tears during the silence.

People are also remarking how the rest of them looked unhappy, but WTF were they expecting on at the Cenotaph service? Them all to come out the Foreign Office door like they've been told to come on down on the Price is Right????

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:17 pm
by Oboogie
Bones McCoy wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:18 pm
Rosvanian wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:06 pm The state that Charles was in this morning suggests that things are a lot more serious than we're being told.
When there's speculation, I try to see whether there are other simple explanations.

Here's a bit of a punt:
Charles was very close to a couple of military figures.
Mountbatten, and his dad Philip - both of whom served in the last World War.

Maybe (just maybe) they loomed large in his contemplations of the day.
That's very much my situation. I don't know anybody who was killed in war. But my dad and my uncle were both WW2 veterans and are now deceased. They haunt my thoughts on Remembrance Day. The first two minute silence after my dad died was tough and the world wasn't staring at me.

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:19 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
I find it difficult to speak the dedication, I often have a break in my voice.

If he takes his rôle as king seriously, those are his people commemorated there. Almost two million of them.

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:19 pm
by Boiler
If one watches the video here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-59280801 from 2:00 onwards, there is a man who would appear to be in some considerable distress.

I genuinely feel sorry for him.

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:38 pm
by Abernathy
I mean, chaps, if anybody was ever entitled to throw a sickie, surely it's a 95 year old monarch ?

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:46 pm
by Abernathy
Thinking about it, Brian was probably feeling a wee bit eemosh as this national remembrance day - with no Brenda - was rather like a dress rehearsal for when Brenda croaks and he finally officially gets the job he’s been waiting for for fifty-odd years. It might well be the last such event during which Brenda is still drawing breath - even if she was actually curled up in front of the telly with a box of Milk Tray instead of being stood on the balcony of the Foreign Office observing the solemnities.

The prospect of his dear old mam turning up her toes and him getting to be King Brian simultaneously must provoke very mixed emotions. Who can blame the old fucker for having a bit of a quivering lip?

Re: The Queen

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:06 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Abernathy wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:46 pm Who can blame the old fucker for having a bit of a quivering lip?
Not I. Watching any close relative coming to the end of their journey is a hard thing.