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Re: GBeebies

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:17 pm
by Youngian
Mr Clark’s spot on. I dip into Times Radio, I’m not their target demographic but it wasn’t founded on hostility for half the population as its USP. And even the print journos who’ve only just moved to broadcasting aren’t conducting themselves as amateurs.

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:46 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Bring it on, as he seemed to be saying before.

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Re: GBeebies

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:59 pm
by Youngian
GB News is everything its detractors predicted and worse. Neil’s tone told you what it would be like. Will it last longer than the News on Sunday? A left wing version of this amateur hour.

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:25 am
by zuriblue
Youngian wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:59 pm GB News is everything its detractors predicted and worse. Neil’s tone told you what it would be like. Will it last longer than the News on Sunday? A left wing version of this amateur hour.
Of course it will. Remember wingnut welfare has deep pockets.

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:29 am
by Bones McCoy
zuriblue wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:25 am
Youngian wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:59 pm GB News is everything its detractors predicted and worse. Neil’s tone told you what it would be like. Will it last longer than the News on Sunday? A left wing version of this amateur hour.
Of course it will. Remember wingnut welfare has deep pockets.
They'll never run out of donors' money.
And some donors see a massive payoff if they can convert Britain into a deregulated corporate wonderland like the USA.
Or worse.

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:13 am
by davidjay
If Rupert Murdoch can keep the Sun as a loss-leader for all these years, a TV station that gives you a seat at the table is peanuts.

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:40 pm
by satnav
The big difference between 'The Sun' and GB News is that 'The Sun' has still got relatively high readership figures but the figures for GB News are very low and the cost of running a TV channel are more expensive than producing a newspaper.

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:48 pm
by Bones McCoy
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:46 pm Bring it on, as he seemed to be saying before.

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Or - a more truthful explanation.

We inherited a job lot of advertisers through a shared bundle deal.
Most of them don't like our product and are exercising their free market rights.
In a way that we don't like; so we'll scream and scream.

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:47 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Well, indeed.

I think the advertisers overdo the "values" stuff, mind. That's a gift to GB News people. Just say "We're weighing up where we want to advertise. Don't you like freedom then?"

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:17 am
by Cyclist
The Irish Times seems to have the measure of them...


GB News, week 1: It takes until Tuesday to go full wingnut

There’s a moment during the first Monday night of GB News’s programming when its chairman, the former BBC broadcaster Andrew Neil, finds himself staring into the abyss. The Abyss’s name is Dan Wootton, and the Abyss is very pleased with himself. He’s cheerfully telling Neil about his fact-free lockdown scepticism, and Neil, who is still wedded to logic, looks worried that his career is in a burning clown car.

The grinning Abyss has a three-hour programme every night (straight after Neil’s), featuring other nihilistic information vacuums like Nigel Farage and Rod Liddle. I believe it’s called Stare into the Abyss for Three Hours, and it does what it says on the tin...


...It doesn’t take long for Wootton to go full wingnut. On Tuesday he highlights a baseless conspiracy theory about how lockdowns might ultimately be a government plot to curb carbon emissions. Does he have facts to back this up? No. But he’s the type of journalist who doesn’t need facts. He prefers to ask questions. You know, like your four-year-old: What is a dog? Why is the moon? Are spiders happy? Is Isis funding the BBC?

There are some dissenting voices on Wootton’s panel, but most of his guests are a who’s-who of trollkind. They include Allison Pearson, Rod Liddle, Claire Fox, Megyn Kelly, Laurence Fox, Lady Colin Campbell, Lord Voldemort, Scrooge McDuck, the millionaire from the cover of the Monopoly Box, Cruella DeVil, Megatron, Gargamel from the Smurfs and Nigel Farage. (Only the worst seven actually appear.)...

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/gb-n ... -1.4596133
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Re: GBeebies

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:28 pm
by Bones McCoy
Looking forward to their discussion between Stavros Blofeld and Darth Vader on best methods to eliminate forrins form the NHS.

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
We seem to be hearing less about viewing figures than last week...

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:02 pm
by Tubby Isaacs

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:14 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Good point well-made.


Re: GBeebies

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:50 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Sounds a bit needy...

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:21 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Can't post links from here but Victoria Derbyshire has tweeted some not very good audience figures. Keep this up and Ian's News on Sunday comparison might be apt.

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:13 pm
by Youngian
Before News on Sunday’s editor John Pilger left to complete a documentary in Oz, he left a list of able Fleet St reporters the paper should approach. Instead they hired activist gobshites from left and trade union publications. Although the ones on GB News with experienced journalistic rigour show what a team effort TV is. That ex BBC bloke looks shell shocked.

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:19 pm
by Youngian
So she has. Or GB News may regroup and change the tone like breakfast TV. I’d watch the Andrew Neil and Roland Rat Show

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:22 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
On this form, they'd be better off going upmarket. Who's the modern equivalent of Robert Kee, up for a 10 minute interview on underlying inflation at 6am?

If Roland Rat and Greg Dyke are unavailable, maybe they could call in Bob Geldof and The Big Breakfast team. What's Gaby Roslin doing these days?

Re: GBeebies

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:14 pm
by satnav
Looks like Tory MPs are desperate to watch the new channel.

Tory MPs complain GB News is not available on parliamentary estate TV service despite 'propaganda' like Russia-backed RT being on offer

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... state.html